Davej wrote:
Ok Moss, so if you want to climb SRT why not just run a carabiner up the rope to the TIP and not use a ground anchor?

I use a cinched limb anchor quite a bit. As Baker mentioned, never by running a carabiner up the rope. I used a backed up Running Bowline to cinch the limb. Many climbers use a rated Mallion Rapide (MR) to cinch the limb. The MR can be cross-loaded and is perfect for this application.

In many tall trees it can be very difficult or impossible to isolate a limb, so in that case a ground/trunk anchor is used. The "remote release" trunk anchor is something that would be implemented by a limited number of climber in specific circumstances. It's not anywhere near being a primary technique for anchoring an SRT line.
-moss

Baker wrote:
If a 5 year old can tie and use a safety slip knot, then so can you. Be safe. Back it up.

No, I went to using a single overhand on a bight as my safety. Slip knots slip.

Having never held a figure-eight I didn't realize that the small hole was so large.

Thanks Moss for explaining why you would want a ground anchor.

Davej wrote:
No, I went to using a single overhand on a bight as my safety. Slip knots slip.

Having never held a figure-eight I didn't realize that the small hole was so large.

Thanks Moss for explaining why you would want a ground anchor.

Interesting that you ended up using an overhand on a bight for your safety knot. I was facilitating a climb the other day and one of my climbers tied her first safety correctly as a slip knot then all the rest as overhands on a bight. From a slight distance they look the same. The overhand/bight is very effective to stop the hitch from coming down. From a climb facilitators point of view it's a pain because they can't be released remotely from the ground, but for the climber it was very effective. For a solo climber I don't see an problem with the overhand/bight. It will make it more difficult for a person on the ground to assist a climber who has descended hard onto the knot. I've noticed that the slip knot is more likely to fall apart on some ropes more than others, and definitely on newer rope. You can tighten the slip knot down pretty hard by holding the down rope above the knot and pulling the knot down from above, that'll lock it.
-moss

Baker wrote:
...tie a bowline or other loop knot. Never use a carabiner.

Ok, I hadn't considered carabiner cross-loading. I'd hope this is a very special super-safe bowline.

I was just thinking; why use throwline to pull the rope back? Why not just tie the rope into a loop and let the fisherman's be the stopper?

Davej wrote:
Baker wrote:
...tie a bowline or other loop knot. Never use a carabiner.

Ok, I hadn't considered carabiner cross-loading. I'd hope this is a very special super-safe bowline.

I was just thinking; why use throwline to pull the rope back? Why not just tie the rope into a loop and let the fisherman's be the stopper?

Tying the rope in a continuous loop would work except when you're maxing out the length and don't quite have eonugh to complete the loop. You'll still need to guide with a throw line when you drop the tail

I back a Running Bowline for a limb cinch anchor with a Yosemite Finish followed by a double overhand (one half of a Fisherman's Knot) to further secure the tail. It's secure, I wouldn't climb on it otherwise
-moss

moss wrote:
Tying the rope in a continuous loop... You'll still need to guide with a throw line when you drop the tail

Oops. Ok.