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Re:The Figure 8? 1 Year ago  
To answer the original question- no. I don't think the Fig 8 is worth carrying aloft for the potential self rescue. When I hear "rescue" I hear "I'm probably never going to need this...but just in case..."

To use a Fig 8, you need a carabiner. Leave the 8 and use a munter. All you need is the 'biner! See a reference to rec tree climbing and this hitch here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munter_hitch

The only aspect the 8 beats the munter is that the rope twists a LITTLE less that the Munter. If I was concerned about twist, I'd carry a Rack.

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Re:The Figure 8? 1 Year ago  
IMO for rec climbing there are too many better options.

I carry a figure 8 with me when working in trees. When in pines or other trees with a main spar I like to choke my climbing line via 'biner or simple bowline to the spar then run the single line through my figure 8. This is my secondary safety. If I ever need to get out of a tree quick, like for bees, I can un hitch my primary safety (steel core flip line) and drop quick. It also comes in handy some times for self rigging static loads or light limb drops.
 
 
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Re:The Figure 8? 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
I'm only a novice tree climber, but I've been a rope rescue technician for many years. I guess I did things backwards, but my first experiences with tree climbing were SRT-type. (I think that's right - Someone correct me if I'm wrong) I tie an anchor at ground level, climb using ascenders and then switch over to decender to come down. At least that's how I did it. There's definately more to think about, more gear to haul, handle(and drop),and unless you use a prussik loop as a self belay, I think there is a greater safety risk for a novice using an 8.

I use a rescue 8 all the time, because that's what I'm familiar with. I'm learning different methods now, so I can see why some people either love 8s or hate them. I carry mine because it can be used as a rappel device, belay/lowering device, and a rigging plate.

As for the weight. My Kong 8 (alum.)weighs only a couple of ounces. I do have a stainless steel piece that is QUITE HEAVY - but it's rated at over 11,000 lbf!

IMO, use what you are comfortable with, but it never hurts to learn alternative methods - I am.
 
 
 
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